Editing Locations

[adam]

When I go and update a location, upon saving, it asks me if I want to update all the events, I cannot click on the Yes or no button, f I press the space bar, it saves only the single event..

[Barry]

Hi Adam, it sounds like you’re coming up against a known bug.

Can you review this fix and if it sounds like it fits your problem try applying it? We do intend to fix this in a future maintenance release so if you aren’t happy or have no success with the suggested fix do know that this will be resolved in due course.

Also, if the problem is in fact different in some way please just let me know with a description of what you are seeing and we’ll do our best to help 🙂

[adam]

This reply is private.

[Barry]

Hi Adam: if you have a sequence of 10 recurring events and edit the 5th of those, change something and apply the update to All Events this really means that it will apply to the current and all future instances (ie, the 5th, 6th, 7th … through to the 10th event).

Is that what you were trying to highlight with the screencast?

[adam]

No, When I make the change and ask for it to be applied to future events, it is only changing the current event. I can send you WP login creeds to take a look, if you like.

[Barry]

I think there’s perhaps a little confusion here, but it basically all looks fine to me. That said, it’s difficult to quickly take in all the information we need from a screencast – but let me run through the way it looks to me:

• Initially we see the list of events – the event you go on to edit is dated Aug 20 and has an Unnamed Venue
• There are other events of the same name on Aug 27, Sep 3 and Sep 10 – however, since these already have an actual named venue that makes me think that they are in fact a quite separate chain of events which just happen to share the same name
• When you edit the event dated Aug 20 you change the venue and apply the change to all events
• You return to the list of events and the event on Aug 20 correctly shows as taking place at the named venue
• The other future events of the same name are, as above, either a completely separate chain or are anyway already marked as taking place at that same venue

Does that make more sense? If not it would be great if you could distil the problem down into a set of bullet points as, right now, it looks as though everything is functioning as expected.

Thanks!

[adam]

Hmm. seems like there was no sound in that….

I have a list of events, I want to change all of the Bible Study N4 from Unamed venue to Wingren Residence.

All of these were created as a recurring event.

When I change one, and press to have all future events changed, it only changes the current event, none of the future events get changed.

[adam]

This reply is private.

[Barry]

Hi Adam:

Again, essentially the same thing is happening as in the previous screencast and it all looks in order. In this instance you are editing Bible Study N4 (dated Aug 12) – but note that:

A) All other events named Bible Study N4 taking place later in the month already belong to a named venue – as before, that suggests that although they share the same name they are actually a different chain of events

B) Once you make the change and return to the list of events you seem to be highlighting with your mouse pointer the Bible Study N4 date taking place on Aug 5 (which is earlier than the one you edited). Again, selecting All Events really means that the change will apply to the current and all future instances – but not to past instances

Does that make more sense? Essentially it all seems to me to be operating as expected, though I can appreciate it may be a bit confusing.

[adam]

I guess I understand, so since the Event was already created, and already assigned to a location, I have to go in and manually change all of the instances?

I created one event, with a 52 week recurrence. I had the Unnamed venue as the default venue, I then created a venue, and wanted to change all of the N4 events to reflect the updated venue. If I have to go back in and change all the events one by one, that seems counterintuitive…

[Barry]

You’re right that you shouldn’t have to do it manually and normally you would not, but let me try to explain.

Let’s say you have a recurring event taking place on 1st September 2013 and recurring every month until 1st September 2015: you will then have 25 different “instances”, one for each of those months.

If you edit the first of those, taking place on 1st September 2013, and apply the change to all it will indeed (or should) propagate through all of the events … however, and perhaps this is what has happened here, if you edit an event half way through that chain – perhaps 1st October 2014 in my example – change something and apply to all what actually happens is the entire chain is split in two.

What we then end up with is one chain running from 1st September 2013 – 1st September 2014 (and those would be unaffected by the change) and a second chain running from 1st October 2014 through to the final instance taking place on 1st September 2015.

These two “chains” of events are now completely distinct entities though they may still share the same title and other bits of data in common. If after doing this you then edit the instance taking place on 1st July 2014 (and again apply the change to all future events) we’d have three “chains”:

1) 1st September 2013 – 1st June 2014
2) 1st July 2014 – 1st September 2014 * which you just formed
3) 1st October 2014 – 1st September 2015

This is by design and, from what I can see in your screencasts, is exactly what you are experiencing – except on both occasions you have edited the last event in the first chain and so there is indeed only one event that will actually be updated.

It can certainly be a bit of a puzzler if you aren’t aware that this is how the system works – but it aims to follow the conventions established by industry leaders such as Google Calendar and, again, it does seem to me that everything in your case is working as expected.

[adam]

I see, I was editing from the bottom, not from the top, I resorted by date and it is working properly, my bad….

[Barry]

No problem 🙂

I’ll go ahead and close this now but if there’s anything else please don’t hesitate to create a new thread.

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