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How can we change the “Events for week of Monday, March…” heading to something else + insert a short text below this? Why can’t we place the Events Calendar as a shortcode on a regular page so that we could use all other features of a WP page like heading, text, widgets, etc. ECP is very difficult to work with.Hi mending,
How can we change the “Events for week of Monday, March…” heading to something else + insert a short text below this?
So the general pattern of a snippet to change this would be something like this, though of course you would need to adjust it to get the title you want.
Why can’t we place the Events Calendar as a shortcode on a regular page so that we could use all other features of a WP page
It simply hasn’t been built that way and that is an approach that also has some downsides. However, we’re certainly open to feedback and if you want to add your support to any existing requests along these lines, or post a new suggestion of your own, our UserVoice page is the place to go 🙂
Thanks!
Okay but we need to add a description text below the the custom heading too. How do we do that then?
But ohhh how much easier all would be if you would just support “shortcodes” so that we could create a new WP page, add a heading, write some text, insert ECP shortcode and even use Widgets. With ECP as it is – nothing of this is possible and we need to mess around in the functions.php file. Are there any major update releases planned soon?
BTW the “Shortcode” feature request has already been suggested a number of times with hundreds of votes but with no indication of even “planned” for implementation?
Hi mending, one thing at a time! Let’s deal with your technical issue first of all.
Okay but we need to add a description text below the the custom heading too. How do we do that then?
So there are a few ways you might do this. One would be to use a filter, something like this. If you prefer not to add snippets to your theme’s functions.php file then you could override and customize the pro/week/content.php template and do things that way (please see our Themer’s Guide for an overview of this process).
Does that help with this specific problem (before we address your points re shortcodes/lack of shortcodes)?
Hi Barry,
The filter/snippet helped. Thanks!I believe this issue will be raised again and that supporting shortcodes for inserting anywhere on any page will be a great improvement and UX to ECP.
What if I wanted to add a right side Widget to the Single Event Page? How would that be possible?
We’d love to hear more from you on this topic, as we are thinking about some changes and new features that may include shortcodes. Any such changes are not going to happen immediately – we may even take a completely different course of action – but feedback from interested users such as yourself will certainly be useful in shaping what we do.
I believe this issue will be raised again and that supporting shortcodes for inserting anywhere on any page will be a great improvement and UX to ECP.
One of the items you’ve raised in this topic is changing the title for week view. It sounds like you’re suggesting if we had a shortcode such as [tribe_week_view] there would be no problem because you could set the title to whatever you like in the page editor.
However, right now our titles are dynamic (they don’t just read “Week View”, they read “Events for the week of …date…” etc) and we feel that is a useful thing in a calendar. How do you see that being implemented in your model, or is this something you personally have no need for? We’d be interested in your thoughts either way – but it’s well worth remembering we need to cater to the needs of all our users here.
Okay but we need to add a description text below the the custom heading too.
This was another interesting point as right now (with the exception of map view) we display the same set of controls – the “Tribe Bar” – at the top of each primary event view. This isn’t something we just dreamed up, we spent a lot of time working with users and getting their thoughts on what provided the best user experience.
In your model of shortcode-driven views, would this simply be rolled into the output of shortcodes like [tribe_week_view] (therefore preventing it from being consistently positioned at the top) or would you see us breaking things up into multiple shortcodes, such as [tribe_get_bar] and [tribe_week_view], for example?
What if I wanted to add a right side Widget to the Single Event Page? How would that be possible?
The fact is it is possible.
However, taking it as something more of a rhetorical question than a request for assistance, the flipside of this is that since event pages all share something in common many users might wish a common set of widgets to display across all of them (calendar view, week view, single event and single venue views, etc). That’s fairly easily achievable right now because a sidebar can be set up for this purpose and pulled in via a template override.
At the same time, though it is readily achievable for those with slightly more technical knowledge it may not be a course of action that all users can easily implement without help. On the other hand, what you are suggesting might also make setting up a common sidebar/common set of widgets for all event pages a fairly complex and laborious process, depending on the theme in use.
Those are just counter-arguments to help you understand that we’re trying hard to figure out the best approach for all of our users. If you’ve got any further thoughts or wish to elaborate further we’d love to hear from you.
Thanks again!
(Just to avoid confusion, I’ve changed the visibility of my last post as you may not have been able to see it initially.)
Hi, thanks for the further thoughts – this is useful feedback for us and we’ll certainly use this thread as a point of reference as we continue our own discussions on this topic. One thing I’d like to clarify initially relates to the following point you made:
I don’t understand what you wrote regarding Widgets. You are basicly saying that it’s possible but so complex to achive that it can’t be achived by anyone really?
It sounds like you are interpreting my statement as, “It is theoretically possible but in practice near-impossible,” and that isn’t at all what I meant, so let me clarify.
For those who don’t mind doing some theming work – those with a little technical knowledge – this isn’t too difficult by any means. What I was acknowledging was that that are also a group of our users who have minimal technical knowledge and, for them, this sort of change is not something they can manage by themselves. We fully appreciate that fact.
Why don’t ECP make general use of pages in WP so that we could set Widgets on these pages (or not) as we please.
It sounds like you are picturing certain views like month, list, week view etc as pages.
The alternative view is that they are more like WordPress’s own archive views and, just like those, you can create custom templates to add sidebars or just about any other embellishment you would like. Similarly, just like native WordPress archives, they are handled slightly differently from a page or post: you wouldn’t ordinarily create a category archive page by adding a [wordpress_category_list] shortcode to a page, for instance, though such a thing isn’t impossible of course.
ECP have stripped all WP functions making a static calendar plugin only developers can handle. I am sorry to say that we are disappointed with the usability of this plugin.
We’re really sorry to hear you think that. At the same time I have to say I don’t think it’s a completely fair statement – most users of WordPress can install our plugin and have a functional calendar up and running with zero outside help, there is no particular need for developers to be brought in.
For those who wish to customize things beyond the defaults we have a range of settings to help them – and for many users those settings are more than adequate to meet their needs. Other users who need to take things to a higher level are largely catered for by our template override system and comprehensive set of filters and action hooks.
One thing I’m not clear on is what you mean when you write that we have, “Stripped away all WP functions,” as our plugins integrate on many levels with WordPress – WordPress functionality, functions and template tags are used throughout.
With all that said, it’s clearly not a perfect fit for everyone and your feedback is genuinely useful and appreciated.
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